Housing Block Info!
Posted by watchdog squirecam

squirecam wrote:And many attendees who fly would get to drive. Works both ways.Also, Indy has street homeless people who can be just as "unfriendly" as "porn slappers", which was resolved long ago. You dont even need to venture outside air conditioning now with the monorail transport available.
Please stop trashing Vegas as family unfriendly. It is family friendly. Its not the 80's.
No, it really doesn't work both ways.  Most estimates say between 75 and 80 percent of the U.S. Population can reach Indiana in less than a day.  There's a reason they call Indianapolis "The Crossroads of America."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossroads_of_America

Frequently suggested alternatives like Vegas, Orlando, etc. mean a much higher percentage of attendees will have to fly, and in most cases the cost of flying would more than outweigh the savings of cheaper hotel rates that another city might have.

I love Vegas, but it's silly to pretend that homeless people (which the Strip also has) are the equivalent nuisance level of porn slappers, at least in the eyes of conservative families.  Given the choice between finding residual cigarette butts and the odd empty bottle in the street, and the cards of escorts, the rolling billboards selling escorts, etc., what do you think the typical parent will choose?  Not to mention the kinds of behavior that go on with legalized outdoor open alcohol that is practiced by so many of the tourists.  

And the solution "But you can avoid all that if you never, ever leave the complex!" isn't as big of a selling point to families as you might think.

Posted by rodoubleb squirecam

squirecam wrote:
watchdog wrote:
It's a little confusing to say "Downtown on the strip" as those are two separate locations in Vegas.
The issues with Vegas are not hotel related for the most part.  Its geographic location means many current attendees who drive would have to fly, the weather in August can be oppressive, the porn slappers don't create a family friendly atmosphere, and the stronger unions would mean a more expensive convention, which would pass those costs onto attendees.

And many attendees who fly would get to drive. Works both ways.Also, Indy has street homeless people who can be just as "unfriendly" as "porn slappers", which was resolved long ago. You dont even need to venture outside air conditioning now with the monorail transport available.
Please stop trashing Vegas as family unfriendly. It is family friendly. Its not the 80's.

I'm going to have to argue against the comparison of Indy homeless to porn slappers.  In my 9 years of attending, I've yet to run into an outright unfriendly homeless person in Indy.      Yes there are a fair number of homeless, who law enforcement does not seem to bother as long as they park themselves on the sidewalk.  

 

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Posted by marimaccadmin

Seriously, why is every thread turning into where Gen Con should move to?  No more.  I said, if you want to have that discussion, take if off topic, and I'm serious.  Any more of this location talk and I'm going to lock the thread.

Posted by timjs21 marimaccadmin

marimaccadmin wrote:
Seriously, why is every thread turning into where Gen Con should move to?  No more.  I said, if you want to have that discussion, take if off topic, and I'm serious.  Any more of this location talk and I'm going to lock the thread.
 
Couldn't agree more.  I never started this thread with that intention.  What I was hoping for was an official response to my original questions, which I'll post again here: 

With so many people frustrated that they can't get downtown rooms for the convention, I'd like to know why the following information is deemed private instead of public.


  1. How many rooms in total are available through the housing block from downtown hotels?
  2. How many of those rooms are available to general attendees who do NOT have a VIG badge?
  3. How many of those rooms have double beds? (since those seem to be mythical)

I can only think of one reason myself and that is because there is a problem with lack of downtown rooms and it is NOT being addressed in any way.  How about working out transportation that WORKS?  I've gone to many cities that have hop-on hop-off buses that run specific routes and you can usually get on them every 15 minutes.  That seems like a simple solution that should be seriously considered.  Don't tell me that the financials wouldn't work.

Marimaccadmin, since you have the ability to lock threads, is it safe to assume that you could offer an official response?

I look forward to your reply.
 

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Posted by noone

Not an official reply but since there are a total of 230 VIGs and each on can reserve up to two rooms I would say 500.  

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Posted by marimaccadmin

The only response I can offer is that the number of rooms in the housing block is not public information.  Gen Con tries to get as many downtown rooms as possible in that block.

I'm not sure why double beds are considered "mythical".  They are simply much more popular to this attendee populace that seems to prefer to travel with a larger group.

You're asking WHY it's private?  Gen Con is a business, and has every right to keep proprietary information private.

Posted by timjs21 marimaccadmin

marimaccadmin wrote:
The only response I can offer is that the number of rooms in the housing block is not public information.  Gen Con tries to get as many downtown rooms as possible in that block.
I'm not sure why double beds are considered "mythical".  They are simply much more popular to this attendee populace that seems to prefer to travel with a larger group.
You're asking WHY it's private?  Gen Con is a business, and has every right to keep proprietary information private.

I appreciate the response.  Hopefully things will get better and a great transportation system can be put in place for those of us who were AGAIN unfortunate enough not to have gotten a downtown hotel.

Thank you!

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