no turnstile is if you buy a one day badge you are one turnstile attendee if you buy a 4 day badge you are four turnstile attendee. They don't count in and out either at the doors of the con or the dealers hall. No where do you see any one with clickers counting

Except that... we did. See people with clickers.

The only 'fact' anyone has here is that they do not know and are guessing. I've seen sources, far more credible than anyone here, put the number over 70k. Anyone trying to say turnstile attendance answers the question has no idea what they are talking about. There is no static correlation between badges sold and turnstile numbers since no one knows how many one day vs four day passes sold or how many times those people went into, out of, and back into the hall.

Let's assume your 75k unique attendance estimate is correct. If the first 60K people had the identical number of four day and single day badges as in 2016, there's no way an additional 15K of attendees could raise the turnstile only 4 percent. Even if all 15K bought a single day badge, that would still result in a turnstile increase of over seven percent (15K/210K).

So the only way turnstile could only increase 4% iwhile increasing unique attendees 25% would be as Parody mentioned: you'd need to see a big decrease in four day badge sales compared to 2016. But you already rejected that scenario with your "monkeys flying out of your butt" comment.

You seem to be confusing comments I've made with ones others must have made or you're trying to claim I said things I have not because, firstly, I did not state such a number (75k) as 'the' number, only that the only seemingly credible estimate that came from a GenCon source may have verified that was the cap. I have said I do not believe, for a moment, the number was lower than previous years.

You also mistakenly believe badges sold has a static correlation to turnstile numbers. It doesn't. You do not know how many times each person went in and out and we have verified, via multiple people here, they were counting. I've been to the con many times, hell I worked it when I worked at WotC, and I've always seen people at the door with count clickers. Additionally, if unique attendees DID correlate to a static turnstile number the unique attendees and turnstile numbers for each year would have an easily discernible mathematical formula that would result in an exact, predictable number between the two each year... which is not the case.

What are you on about? 4 day badges sold out, and they were still selling Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday badges at that time.

Are you unaware of this?

You must, indeed, need to read my posts more carefully as I commented, previous to your reply, that four day badges sold out (and one day badges were then all that was available at that point).

When Gen Con stopped selling 4 day badges, which day among Thursday, Friday, Saturday, or Sunday could not accommodate further attendees?

If your answer is "none of them" - then it proves Gen Con stopped selling 4 day badges before attendance limited them.

It could be any of them. It's pretty common sense that there was likely a daily cap that was a combined number of four and single day badges. When they hit the cap for four day badges they stopped selling them and people then had to buy single day badges, for whatever days those were still available.

If your answer is "X-day" - then how do you account for the fact that Gen Con was still selling 1 day badges for X-day?

The single day badges would have sold out independently of each other and the daily cap would likely be a combined number, as I said above. I don't understand your point. You seem to think these two comments contradict each other? How?