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Posted by jfrazier12
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Is it true that there is a group still trying to set up events for MTG tournaments?  

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Posted by armadilloal
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Yes.  The company that runs the entire Magic hall has never been known for their punctuality.

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Posted by god1801
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According to Pastimes they submitted their events last wednesday and Gencon is currently formatting/fixing them then they will be posted. 

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Posted by njseahawksfan
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I received another reply to a Facebook message from Pasttimes today ... everything has been submitted (late, of course) and now it is just a matter of GenCon getting them posted.  If past years are any measure, that might take a while because there are usually a lot of events!

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Posted by jlove1069
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I really don't understand how this group still runs this when they do things like this.  I logged in May 15 to see what cool Magic events would be at Gencon and I found nothing.  Baldman games runs D&D and to their credit their games are up.  If pastimes doesn't think this event is important enough to get their listings up when pre-registration opens, maybe Gencon needs to start looking for a TO that is a little more punctual.

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Posted by god1801
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At this point we're waiting on Gencon since the events were submitted last Wednesday.  To be fair the i bet the biggest problem is there are probably hundreds of the drafts and win a box events that need to be put into the system which probably takes forever.  I wonder if there's a better way to do the hourly events that nobody signs up for early (hearthstone, Lol, mtg drafts, win a box, etc)?  I imagine they account for hundreds of events.

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Posted by xanathon
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Pastimes has no excuse though.  This isn't the first time that they have run events at GenCon and they know when the dates to have their events in is.

All they have to do is get their events in on time to avoid this.

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Posted by mhayward1978 xanathon
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xanathon wrote:
Pastimes has no excuse though.  This isn't the first time that they have run events at GenCon and they know when the dates to have their events in is.
All they have to do is get their events in on time to avoid this.

It's also not the first time they've missed the deadline.

I think it is the first time event reg went live without their events though.

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Posted by bannoniii
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Part of the issue with Pastimes is one of monopoly. They are just about the only company in the Midwest that is capable of running MtG events on the magnitude of Gen Con, or the Grand Prix they host throughout the year. If anyone is willing to step in and challenge their position, Pastimes seems intent on making opportunities for a competitor to look more professional.

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Posted by xanathon
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GenCon could also enforce compliance with their timelines.  It makes GenCon and Pastimes look bad as they can't meet or enforce time lines for when the events go live.

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Posted by derekguder xanathon
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xanathon wrote:
GenCon could also enforce compliance with their timelines.  It makes GenCon and Pastimes look bad as they can't meet or enforce time lines for when the events go live.

We always add late events leading up to the show.

Late events mean more games and more people playing games, so that policy is not going to change.

If you are unhappy with the timeline for event release for a particular gaming group or company, contact them directly and encourage them to submit earlier.

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Derek Guder
Event Manager
Gen Con LLC

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Posted by god1801
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every hour or two I go and check to see if the events are posted.  I know they say 1 is the loneliest number but 127 is pretty lonely as well.  :)

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Posted by chef4575 derekguder
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derekguder wrote:
xanathon wrote:
GenCon could also enforce compliance with their timelines.  It makes GenCon and Pastimes look bad as they can't meet or enforce time lines for when the events go live.

We always add late events leading up to the show.Late events mean more games and more people playing games, so that policy is not going to change.
If you are unhappy with the timeline for event release for a particular gaming group or company, contact them directly and encourage them to submit earlier.
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Derek Guder
Event Manager
Gen Con LLC

Pasttimes has said they provided the events on the 11th. If we are having a Pasttimes bashing party I will bring the cake, but this one seems to be on Gencon's ability to provide a quick turnaround.

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Posted by mhayward1978 chef4575
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chef4575 wrote:
derekguder wrote:
xanathon wrote:
GenCon could also enforce compliance with their timelines.  It makes GenCon and Pastimes look bad as they can't meet or enforce time lines for when the events go live.

We always add late events leading up to the show.Late events mean more games and more people playing games, so that policy is not going to change.
If you are unhappy with the timeline for event release for a particular gaming group or company, contact them directly and encourage them to submit earlier.
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Derek Guder
Event Manager
Gen Con LLC
Pasttimes has said they provided the events on the 11th. If we are having a Pasttimes bashing party I will bring the cake, but this one seems to be on Gencon's ability to provide a quick turnaround.

The event submission deadline was March 14th.  

Assuming Passtimes delivered on May 11th, they were around 60 days late.

I imagine GenCon is quite busy during the period immediately before and after event registration goes live (May 15th this year).

This is not about GenCon's ability to perform a "quick turnaround."  It is not reasonable to expect that GenCon drop everything and check, format, schedule, and place hundreds of events in a few days when the event host was TWO MONTHS late in submission.

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Posted by jfrazier12
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Any idea if there are commander events?  I'm just happy that there will be magic events.. I was going to be bummed going to Gencon without it. 

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Posted by god1801
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They usually have on demand 4 players commander pods.  As far as premier events featuring commander I'm not sure.

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Posted by xanathon derekguder
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derekguder wrote:
xanathon wrote:
GenCon could also enforce compliance with their timelines.  It makes GenCon and Pastimes look bad as they can't meet or enforce time lines for when the events go live.

We always add late events leading up to the show.Late events mean more games and more people playing games, so that policy is not going to change.
If you are unhappy with the timeline for event release for a particular gaming group or company, contact them directly and encourage them to submit earlier.
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Derek Guder
Event Manager
Gen Con LLC
That's not my job.  I believe that would fall under your responsibilities and not something that you can pass onto others.

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Posted by jfrazier12
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I didn't start this thread for people to bitch.  Just a simple yes or no question.  

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Posted by xanathon jfrazier12
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jfrazier12 wrote:
I didn't start this thread for people to bitch.  Just a simple yes or no question.  
I understand and apologize.  I just get tired of all of the "it's not my problem or if you aren't happy with something go complain to someone else" that goes on here.

The convention is named GenCon and the GenCon staff need to start taking more responsibility for things instead of passing the buck onto the people that make their convention what it is.

I realize that Pastimes was late in their submission, but the response I got from Derek didn't sit well with me.

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Posted by rbree xanathon
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xanathon wrote:
derekguder wrote:
xanathon wrote:
GenCon could also enforce compliance with their timelines.  It makes GenCon and Pastimes look bad as they can't meet or enforce time lines for when the events go live.

We always add late events leading up to the show.Late events mean more games and more people playing games, so that policy is not going to change.
If you are unhappy with the timeline for event release for a particular gaming group or company, contact them directly and encourage them to submit earlier.
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Derek Guder
Event Manager
Gen Con LLC
That's not my job.  I believe that would fall under your responsibilities and not something that you can pass onto others.
Derek is one voice.  The fans who want it earlier are many voices so in a way it is your job.

 

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