I'm not sure how a court would rule on it, but I think the distinction matters. Someone needs a necessity (food) and i think a court might find a vaccine restriction unreasonable for necessities of daily living.
Alternatively you dont have to go to gencon or use air travel. These require a purchase along with compliance with their rules. As long as it isnt discrimination they can set health protections for attendees.
And don't take my comments as a 'OMG they can't do this!' or a projection of what I would/wouldn't do personally. Officially I'm in the I don't care... their party. I just like discussing logistics/legality of everything which I find interesting. At the end of the day, their party, whenever they set the rules I'll figure out if it is feasible for me to attend (will I be able to get a shot by then) or will even be desirable for me to attend based on the rules in play.
I do agree though, I do not envy their position whatever it is because they are damned if they do, damned if they don't with probably 25% on each side.
Just wanted to drop some info.... over this last week, we climbed to vaccinating right about 2.5mil people a day. At this pace alone we will hit 300m with at least one shot by June 14th.
I just read an article that said that the CDC indicated that only 22% of the population has been vaccinated. Also, the drop in new cases has leveled off.
Look for a surge two weeks after St Pats. After that?
“Obviously a grocery store can require a mask due to public health. But there is difference in a place open to the public, which a grocery store is, and gencon, which is not open to the public and requires a badge license to enter.”
Just a FYI, a badge is not required to enter the convention center so it is pretty much a public area until try to enter a room, the vendor hall, or gaming area.
Great news !
The CDC says fully vaccinated people CAN gather indoors without masks.
Given this I cannot see how vaccinated people cannot attend Gencon. If Gencon does require proof of vaccination then this event can go on just like in previous years with no other restrictions.
The following recommendations apply to non-healthcare settings.Fully vaccinated people can:
https://amp-cnn-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/03/08/health/covid-19-vaccine-cdc-guidelines-fully-vaccinated/index.html?amp_js_v=a6&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQArABIA%3D%3D#aoh=16152275115588&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F2021%2F03%2F08%2Fhealth%2Fcovid-19-vaccine-cdc-guidelines-fully-vaccinated%2Findex.html
If this holds. Gencon will now have to choose. Have a vaccination requirement with no social distancing (but maybe still masks) or no requirement but social distancing, masks. Temperature checks, etc. Assuming that is allowed.
I'm guessing the ultimate recommendation will be to allow conventions with vaccination proof. It's too difficult to have attendance limits and distancing because it reduces profit and increases expenses.
While the CDC guidelines are certainly important and may guide what happens locally we should reiterate that...
"At the very least we will be complying with all guidelines that are covered in the jurisdiction of the place we are holding the convention. The state, city, and ICC health standards that are in place to run the show. There really isn't a discussion on this point as it is mandatory for the show to happen."
Mike
But if Gencon has a choice between 45000 fully vacciated attendees with perhaps masks, or a socially distanced con with 25% of that, then the finances are clear. One option is financially viable. One likely isnt.
But clearly the odds of Gencon happening have gotten better.
I think Gencon should stick to the minimum restrictions required by the government and the venue. I was at a trade show at the state fairgrounds in Indy a week ago and there were social distancing, face mask, and temperature check requirements there. Distancing forced a move to a larger than normal building and the aisles were at least 20 ft wide. Face masks were required at the door but they can't police people when they're inside.
All attendees agree to comply with the attendance policies of the ICC. Otherwise they shouldn't go. Or they should lose their badge privileges by refusing to comply.